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"No due diligence. That's lazy admining. You owe Arrow (not Danik) a public apology. "

- You are not a little bold comming in here and post a thing like that. All we asked was for your understanding and your help. Why are you acting so personal? It's just a game. You have 2 individuals that is giving your clan a ban name. My tip is to get rid of them. We had tons of smacktard from different clans and they have all expeld any members that have been screwing arround. People like Arrow gives =[H]= a bad name.

By the way I don't really belive in your story about people hacking Hardcore users IP adresses and account and then griefing in PR.

"We have a problem player that has routinely hijacked a few of our less active players name and IP's to cause trouble. Daniks name was found associated with this player recently, along with a few of our long since inactive members names as well.. "

- You obvioulsy have no knowledge about hacking and the huge ammount of skills that's required to accomplish such a thing.

"You guys DO realize that there is a long standing bug in the BF2 engine that in game console commands are in effective at times, and that when that bug occurs, the only way to remove a player is through BF2CC? "

- You don't have to treat us like we don't know anything. We are aware of the bugs and flaws of the BF2 engine and we can assure you that it's not a case of the console commands not working. If what you are saying would have been true then why is it only the ban function that's not working? While the kick, warn etc. works.

Next time get your facts straight and take my advice and dumb the extra weight you have in your clan, they gonna continue to cause trouble for you, trust me.

It's not an easy task you have been given trying to solve this mess up but someones got to do it ey? Take the information we have provided you and see if you can make something good out of it. I know it's hard for you having to deal with a situation like this.

And once again we are not trying to frame Arrow or Danik but this is a FACT. They have caused alot of trouble and in the future you may have a situation like this again.

I do not have a problem with you removing problem players from your server, my issue is the bullshit claim of hacking.

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Him hacking Arrows/Daniks IP and then using it to grief on our server is just way to far fetched for me. Im not buying that part.

I do buy the part where you have an individual (gorditoamore) causing trouble for your server.

And with our accusations on Arrow I can only say this. If we KNEW this was gonna get so big we probably would have collected evidence. We had no idea the guy was so connected to the hardcore clan. We just though he was a renegade from just another clan. We get them all the time.

In terms of proof we got witnesses, We have about 10 guys here who can testify and a witness to the many occations we have been trying to ban them. And it's not the bug causing the trouble, you really have to let that part go. A witness is as good enough as a printscreen/log to me. I don't know if you will agree with me. Like Helldiver here for example.

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Mon Sep 20 2010, 09:05AM

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Gordi did not hack Daniks account, Danik was acting like an asshole all on his own. Your admin are claiming Danik is stealing/masking ip's

Our issue with Gordi is on-going. As you can see, he has snatched up a few of our older members names, Until Danik fessed up for behaving like a scumbag, I was exploring possibilities.

Once again, my issue is with a completely unfounded claim of hacking.

Mon Sep 20 2010, 09:10AM

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We got members and non-members of veterans gaming telling you right here that the guy is hacking if you don't take that our word for it this discussion is not gonna get anywhere forward from here. I suggest you consult with your clansmen and let them all know of the sittuation. We have witnesses here who can testify about how much problem this has caused. Since we know it's not the bug that has caused all these problems there can only be one explenation. The sooner you realise it the sooner we can get this all over with.

Waiting for your reply.

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Him hacking Arrows/Daniks IP and then using it to grief on our server is just way to far fetched for me. Im not buying that part.

I do buy the part where you have an individual (gorditoamore) causing trouble for your server.

And with our accusations on Arrow I can only say this. If we KNEW this was gonna get so big we probably would have collected evidence. We had no idea the guy was so connected to the hardcore clan. We just though he was a renegade from just another clan. We get them all the time.

In terms of proof we got witnesses, We have about 10 guys here who can testify and a witness to the many occations we have been trying to ban them. And it's not the bug causing the trouble, you really have to let that part go. A witness is as good enough as a printscreen/log to me. I don't know if you will agree with me. Like Helldiver here for example.

If you don't mind, I'll contact you directly, as I feel that you are one of the few professionals here.

If you want to keep Arrow and Danik banned, fine. I hold no grudge with you removing a problem player. We get plenty of them ourselves, at times it takes up all of my free time to deal with them, as I imagine it can do the same for you.

An admin from this clan made a very public claim that Arrow was hacking for his son, a claim that was not backed by any proof. No battle recorder footage, pb screenshots, just the fact that !b didn't work on Danik, but !k did. As I stated, there are so may other ways to prove hacking readily available to server admin beyond a well known BF2 bug.

Untill your clan can offer up more solid proof of hacking, I am going to hold my ground, and request that a public appology be posted to Arrow regarding that claim of hacking.

That said, I'm going to demand that Arrow apologize publicly for allowing Danik to act like an smacktard on your server.

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IF YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND I AM GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE SCUMBAG GOOD FOR NOTHING TROUBLE MAKERS YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!

HOWS THAT FOR PROFESSIONAL?

NOW PISS OFF!

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BLuDKLoT wrote ...

IF YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND I AM GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE SCUMBAG GOOD FOR NOTHING TROUBLE MAKERS YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!

HOWS THAT FOR PROFESSIONAL?

NOW PISS OFF!

Classy.

Mon Sep 20 2010, 09:26AM

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Just take my advice and forget all about this. The guy was hacking and this is a gaming community, not a homicide investigation. We have several people here to strengthen our "accusations" as you call it. I suggest that you just let the apologise thing go and just get on with your life and I wish you the best of luck to you and your clan in your future challenges. We don't want any apologise from Arrow. They have been dealth with. The faith of Danik and Arrow are not in my hands but one thing I can promise you. None of us here are gonna apologize, we won't BACK down. The guy has been causing so much problem that this situationn is so unfunny as it can get. It's very tragic that it had to end like this but my advice is to drop it. If you take any actions against us so be it but we won't BACK down on this. The guy was hacking and he has been given his sentence. On that you have my word as a gentlemen.

Thank you for your understanding.

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Just take my advice and forget all about this. The guy was hacking and this is a gaming community, not a homicide investigation. We have several people here to strengthen our "accusations" as you call it. I suggest that you just let the apologise thing go and just get on with your life. We don't want any apologise from Arrow. They have been dealth with. The faith of Danik and Arrow are not in my hands but one thing I can promise you. None of us here are gonna apologize, we won't BACK down. The guy has been causing so much problem that this situationn is so unfunny as it can get. It's very tragic that it had to end like this but my advice is to drop it. If you take any actions against us so be it but we won't BACK down on this. The guy was hacking and he has been given his sentence.

Thank you for your understanding.

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Your honesty is refreshing. I am still demanding Arrow and Danik publicly appologize for acting like smacktards on your server.

I'd like to request any Clan to Clan correspondence come from you, as I feel that I can have a rational discussion with you opposed to some of the other members here. If you have any further issues regarding players with our tags, please contact me.

Mon Sep 20 2010, 09:40AM

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To be honest I think that the hardcore clan has some of the best players out there and this has all been very suprising to me and I have the biggest sympathy for you and your work. This will probably come to a suprise for you but my powers are rather limited. Im a part of a supporting clan. Any veterans gaming member outranks me. Im the middle-man sort to say. I doubt that we will see any more renegade hardcore members on the server since you have good morale and high standards but if we run into more renegades I shall remember your name.

And once again we are not intressted in any applogize from Arrow and Daniks side. What they did was out of order and they have been banned for it. This dosen't mean any other Hardcore member can't join the server. You are all very welcome to the server and Im sure we will continue to use your exellent multiplayer server once in a while we we leave the "nest".

Best of luck.

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We are aware of the bug. However, some believe that this individual is aware of the bug and is purposfully exploiting it in order to grief the admins.

As for hacking in the true sense, I do not believe he is. But after hearing from my fellow admins I do believe that a 100% faliure rate for the playerid to ID this induividual is too high. I believe he is aware of the bug and is exploiting it to his full advantage.

The IP and GUID was provided to you so that you could verifiy if this is one of your members or if it is someone pretending to be a member.

Please understand the frustration we have gone through in dealing with this issue. Please accept my apolgy for the term HACKING for it is extreme in this case. EXPLOIT would be a more fitting in this case.

May I ask something from you? Can you verify if the info we providied belongs to one of you members and provide us with a positive ID? Also, what is you policy regarding your clan members behaviour outside of the clan?

In conclusion the GUID we provided you, regardless of ownership, will be banned from our server for GRIEFING. I would like to thank you for helping us deal with this issue and hope that we can keep the lines of communcation open for the future.

Thanks for your time,
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PITN wrote ...

We are aware of the bug. However, some believe that this individual is aware of the bug and is purposfully exploiting it in order to grief the admins.

As for hacking in the true sense, I do not believe he is. But after hearing from my fellow admins I do believe that a 100% faliure rate for the playerid to ID this induividual is too high. I believe he is aware of the bug and is exploiting it to his full advantage.

The IP and GUID was provided to you so that you could verifiy if this is one of your members or if it is someone pretending to be a member.

Please understand the frustration we have gone through in dealing with this issue. Please accept my apolgy for the term HACKING for it is extreme in this case. EXPLOIT would be a more fitting in this case.

May I ask something from you? Can you verify if the info we providied belongs to one of you members and provide us with a positive ID? Also, what is you policy regarding your clan members behaviour outside of the clan?

In conclusion the GUID we provided you, regardless of ownership, will be banned from our server for GRIEFING. I would like to thank you for helping us deal with this issue and hope that we can keep the lines of communcation open for the future.

Thanks for your time,
PITN

Yes, that is both Arrow and his son Danik's info.
Be advised: I need your members to contact me directly if any of you finds yourselves banned from our server. I issued an order that there are to be no retaliatory bans, but I'm not the big boss there. If any of your members find they are banned from our server from this day on, I will lift it.

On behalf of the Hardcore Gaming Clan, I apologize for any trouble our members have caused on your server. Please do not allow the actions of one person to influence your opinion of our clan as a whole.

I do believe our policy of allowing full members children to wear *]H[* tags needs to be looked at because of this.

Thank you for your time.

Tue Sep 21 2010, 03:07AM

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We all played on the insuregency server last night about 8 of us and no one banned us so I think it's fine. I myself understand that you are just the messenger and you have done well. It's been an honor and a pleasure working with you to solve this mess.

I hear you, If any of us gets banned for no specific reason Im sure we will contact you.

Best of luck in your gaming experience.

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Tue Sep 21 2010, 03:53PM

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D'oh!

btw
Place new turds in their own thread. That way we only have to update the first post of this thread with a master watchlist. It also helps me from reading 20 pages of posts. :p

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KING51 has been playing on the server lately. Is the hit on him still active or is he on probation?

Wed Sep 22 2010, 06:10AM

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Good question. Anyone has any feedback on KING51? You don't really end up on my blacklist without a good reason so keep an eye on him.

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Who Blacklisted him?
Ask them....

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one more other side player warned is it nesesary to put it here idk but it's here:

nickname:King51

screen:
[ Click Here ]

after that he switched team and multiple tked my squad here's screen:

[ Click Here ]

Page 1, Theday.

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USE THE HOS

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Vision just banned a commander spammer. Ishootcivs

First kick, spamming roger/negative over and over.

Second kick, went commander again and spam our squad with spam e.x. Follow orders, worst than my grandmother, etc

Was told as he was rejoining that he was in here before Team killing and spamming before any admins were on.

Third ban, Came into our sq and trolled/flame us, we gave him a chance to leave the squad and just play, he just didn't quit. Reason for ban was disobeying admins, would add spamming, trolling admins, and disruptive game play.

dman248

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Let's give the tards there own thread.

This thread is way to long as it is and should be used more for questions relating to the watchlist.

Title of thread would be the dorks name. Put all the details in the post itself.

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OGFR FROHNING

Me and Sparky was playing on the COOP server on Gaza Beach. Him and me had set up a mortar station and was pounding away rounds. This guy OGFR Frohing was in our squad and was moving arround our mortars.

1. He wounds me, so I get of the mortar to heal my self.

2. When I heal myself he sneaks up and takes out our firebase.

3. When Sparky asks him what a hell he is doing in the VOIP he asks innocent. So sparky gives him a warning.

4. Then he calls sparky a "higschool fag that play lacross" and then he shoots sparky and then me.

Then he instanly disconnects and dissapears from the server.

This guy need a BAN!